English Club

[DanilaMe 20]

Ladies and Gentlemen,

 

What is Danila talking about?

 

Are you curious about the concept itself or do you prefer riddles, Shakespeare and backwards translation instead of discussing anything here?

 

The true purpose for creating any English club is to inspire any form of discussion. I believe we had a good and fruitful one with Lady LG.

 

We made a modest attempt to discuss a very interesting subject - the use of so called minced oath words and expressions which are so common in every day use of every person. Indeed they are so widespread that even evil wolf from a very popular British iphone/ipad app designed for children is using the word "drat" that softens the word "damn". I provided the picture in order to show you how common and useful it is.

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[DanilaMe 20]

I guess he's talking about so called "dirty" or "unprintable" words.

 

DanilaMe

 

My vocabulary is rich enough and I don't need any "unprintable" words. I use them neither in English nor in Russian.

What is so surprising about that? I'm a lady.

 

Dear LadyLG,

 

You're wrong about minced words, please refer to the link that I provided for the explanation.

"Minced oath" words and expressions are part of everyday language and I'm sure that you use them as well.

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[MSC 2 637]

Well, Ladies and Gentlemen

our English club is now more a Grammar&Semantics Fight. And I so much liked it when all discussions were clear and simple. Jokes, Guess-the-films…. I will be missing all that.

[Molly Malone 4 448]

 

And I so much liked it when all discussions were clear and simple. Jokes, Guess-the-films…

 

So did I

 

Dear friends, today is a happy day!

 

Kate and William are now happy parents! I wonder what name they will choose for the little prince.

 

Anyway, congratulations!

[MSC 2 637]

From my “English” experience: I met this expression “minced oath” only once or twice (surely not more). In one book of Language History – in the article, describing the language of Elizabethan period and social life of Puritans

 

From my point of view (nothing personal, just my opinion) the expression “minced oath” is a crap. I’d use “a soft word” or “euphemism”. Why not?

[MSC 2 637]

Dear friends, today is a happy day!

 

Kate and William are now happy parents! I wonder what name they will choose for the little prince.

 

Anyway, congratulations!

 

 

Congratulations!!!!

I bet on Henry. My husband says "Richard".

Looking forward to check it

[Molly Malone 4 448]

 

I bet on Henry.

 

I also think it will be Henry.

And I hope he will be a handsome boy, and his ears are all right...I mean they are not so big as his grandfather's

[Lady LG 4 159]

 

I bet on Henry. My husband says "Richard".

I think his name will be James.

[victorian 8 435]

I think his name will be Victor!

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[Molly Malone 4 448]

 

I think his name will be Victor!

 

Ha ha, Victor the first! That sounds good

 

Victor Williamovich...

[Lady LG 4 159]

 

Are you curious about the concept itself or do you prefer riddles, Shakespeare and backwards translation instead of discussing anything here?

   Your words sound impolite to Molly and I have to say some unpleasant words to you. Sorry, I’ve run out of patience. Molly’s English is much better than yours both in grammar and vocabulary, but unlike you, she isn’t in the habit of showing off. If you want your posts to be answered and your topics to be discussed, use understandable (not primitive) language and find topics that are interesting for everybody. Be respectful to people who read our posts and whose knowledge of English isn’t good enough.

   If you think you’re smarter than everybody else, I’m afraid you’ll have to talk to yourself in the nearest future.

   Sorry again. It’s you who made me write these words.

 

P.S. You can answer my post using “minced oath” instead of what you really want to say.

[Molly Malone 4 448]

 

Your words sound impolite to Molly and I have to say some unpleasant words to you. Sorry, I’ve run out of patience. Molly’s English is much better than yours both in grammar and vocabulary, but unlike you, she isn’t in the habit of showing off. If you want your posts to be answered and your topics to be discussed, use understandable (not primitive) language and find topics that are interesting for everybody. Be respectful to people who read our posts and whose knowledge of English isn’t good enough. If you think you’re smarter than everybody else, I’m afraid you’ll have to talk to yourself in the nearest future. Sorry again. It’s you who made me write these words.

 

I absolutely agree. Danila is the bear at the ball. We were having fun in the English club, then came the king and announced that everything we write/discuss etc. is chicken-feed and primitive rot  

 

our English club is now more a Grammar&Semantics Fight. And I so much liked it when all discussions were clear and simple. Jokes, Guess-the-films…. I will be missing all that.

That's right! People love jokes, riddles and funny tasks

[DanilaMe 20]

Well, Ladies and Gentlemen

our English club is now more a Grammar&Semantics Fight. And I so much liked it when all discussions were clear and simple. Jokes, Guess-the-films…. I will be missing all that.

 

Hi, MSC,

 

Nobody is fighting here. I proposed a topic that was misunderstood at first. Well, lets pick something else =)

 

If you want clear and simple discussions - go for it. I would love to participate. Unfortunately, the topic was abandoned for three weeks when I started posting. Jokes and "guess the film" are fantastic activities as well. I wouldn't mind talking about the films as well =)

[DanilaMe 20]

From my “English” experience: I met this expression “minced oath” only once or twice (surely not more). In one book of Language History – in the article, describing the language of Elizabethan period and social life of Puritans

 

From my point of view (nothing personal, just my opinion) the expression “minced oath” is a crap. I’d use “a soft word” or “euphemism”. Why not?

 

Actually I also never met "minced oath" expression before. I found an informative Wikipedia article when I became interested where the word "drat" which is used in children books came from. According to this article:

 

A minced oath is a euphemistic expression formed by misspelling, mispronouncing, or replacing a part of a profane, blasphemous, or taboo term to reduce the original term's objectionable characteristics. Some examples include "gosh" for God, "darn" for damn, and "heck" for Hell.

 

As you see from the definition, everybody uses these words, even little children. For instance, my good friend from the US uses minced oath expression "oh, my goodness"  quite often. That is not insulting or inappropriate in any way.

 

It's kind of interesting to know which words are more useful then the others. Hence I asked the fellow forum members to share their words.

 

I inferred that since there is a solid Wikipedia article it is worth to know minced oath expression. I wouldn't use the "soft words" here, because it has a different meaning.  Euphemism sounds much better and makes more sense to me then "minced oath". Thank you for your fruitful participation. 

[DanilaMe 20]

Dear Ladies and Gents,

 

First of all, please, accept my apologies. I never meant any offence to anybody. You should take into consideration that it is not a simple task to reflect emotional nuances over the web. 

 

Molly’s English is much better than yours both in grammar and vocabulary, but unlike you, she isn’t in the habit of showing off.

 

Let us not judge each others English. Everybody on this topic has its own strengths and weaknesses including the teachers.  What made you think that I am showing off? I was born on the first of September and since that time I just crave for learning. I am afraid you might have mistaken this passion for studies for showing off.

 

I am an active supporter of any interesting English language conversation. Propose your topic and I will follow.

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